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NK should have said ress
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Typically in polandball asian countries will have R's instead of y's and l's
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Ah, I see. I can understand "L" but "Y" I don't get, but eh, whatever.
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Japanese people that learn English later in life often have difficulty with the pronunciation of l's because their language doesn't use them (from what I remember katakan replaces l with r - ra ri ru re ro), atleast not in the same way english does, the japanese have y in their language and ye is one of their characters. I don't know Korean - it may be similar to Japanese. But other Asian languages have the l sound. Think of these names Lee and Lim
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I read a report on the NK tech development, and that so much of it was based on German WW2 designs and some early Soviet designs. They said in order for NK to have developed what they had in such isolation and without access to foreign research,development and technology was quite an achievement. Though I find it difficult to believe that no information is smuggled into NK? thoughts? Can you imagine if the NK military got access to Wikipedia... world would be rooted
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It might surprise you that the names "Lee" and "Lim" are not actually "L" and are the same as Japanese and Korean, in that they just decide to romanise the consonant with the English letter L.
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Japanese "ra ri ru re ro" is actually much closer to an L sound than it is an R sound.
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yeh, they sound quite similar, I didn't know that about the names, I am pretty sure they used the l sound when I was in China (it maybe that some dialects use it, and others don't? if anyone cares to clarify?), but I can't remember exactly, I might be getting it mixed up with other SE asian countries that I have visited.
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It is just a matter of your brain associating the sound you hear with the L sound and not the R sound, very few North East Asian languages produce what we consider an R sound.
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Not that China or Japan are SE asian, just that I have visited those, and a number of countries in SE Asia
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I think because the languages are quite different in how they work native English speakers may perceive it differently than how the Japanese would perceive it? I also imagine that if you spent a lot of time their and learnt the language like you may have your perception of the sounds may change? I don't know a lot about languages just that certain languages are similar based on their origins.
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In Regards to the satellite, I believe it is quite small, and its primitive design should hopefully means it burns up on re-entry? If it doesn't I imagine it would be intercepted during re-entry or captured if it fell into the ocean.
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I speak Japanese fluently and very basic Korean, and can tell you both do not have an R or an L sound, their sound is a mix of the two, and technically is closer to an L sound than it is an R sound, hence why Korean names are Lee and Lim.

In regards to the satellite, I'm pretty sure it wasn't real.
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The satellite is probably a chunk of steel lobbed into space.
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I like to think that it is a box full of Kim Jong Ill`s mixtapes “The Kim Jong Illest”
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I think Im going to back Mumme with this one.
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I am not disagreeing with you, just that everyones perception is slightly different, to me it sounded half way between an r and an l, but because I learnt japanese in school for 3 years (from a teacher that didn't learn Japanese as her first language) for some reason it makes me hear the r in it, I can't speak Japanese, because I didn't go there until probably a decade after I stopped learning the language at school, so was basically a waste - but could do the basics greatings, thankyous, numbers and such - but like a lot of things our brains interpret the information we receive based on your previous experiences and the context. So what I hear might not be the same as what you hear... if that makes sense?
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It's probably just repeats of Katy Perry's Fireworks playing on repeat.
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What are peoples thoughts on the whole, information getting into NK thing.... cause like a few text books and a few web pages, plus maybe some kerbal space program, could probably accelerate their space and ballistic missile development quite quickly... that being said can you build ICBMs in Kerbal space program?... would be a cool multiplayer or vs AI mod - kerbal cold war - people racing for space, the moons, missile tech, etc, and you could nuke the other teams base/silos to say delay development for a period of time/reduce funding/repairs/all that type stuff. Or if you both get there at the same time - set out a MAD model to keep the peace. Or Kerbil Space Program - Peoples democratic republic of Kerbin mod...
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You both underestimate their level of education in the upper class and the complexity of space flight.
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oh North Korea?
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They go overseas and get educated.
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oh I said above that I read a document from a rocket scientist in the united states which thinks what they have had done is quite incredible given the circumstances. I also am away that some high up people study overseas including Kim Jong Il himself who studied in Switzerland. Apparently Pakistan allegedly sent them information on uranium enrichment back in like the 90s - not sure if its true. I am away aware that space flight is greatly simplified in KSP. Still you can get a shit load of information in the public domain on a lot of tech, you can also access patents filed by various companies - I am just curious as to how hard it would be for people to get that information into NK.
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North Korea has, until recent agreements, also been linked with Iran, it isn't out of the realms of possibility that Iran has been supplying them with technology. They are also not as isolated as the media likes to make them seem, China whilst pretending to keep them at arms length, doesn't ~really~, they like North Korea being crazy because it keeps eyes on NK instead of on China.
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Very easy. No doubt the top have access to the real world like the rest of us.
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As Blak said, the elite get educated outside of North Korea, Kim Jong Un was reportedly educated in Switzerland in boarding school, developed neutral countries are more than willing to accept North Koreans and educate them.
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Even Russia allows their workers to work in their woodcutting stations.
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That is an interesting point, while NK is like the batshit crazy small country it is keeping the West distracted, it wouldn't surprise me if China is secretly giving them the odd poke from time to time to keep the crazy going. I really doubt that if NK went offensive and started a war with South Korea or possibly Japan and therefore the US that China would back them... especially if that war involved nuclear weapons. Though there is history and tensions with Japan, and China might use the distraction to "reclaim" certain territories. I could also see a possible scenario where China might join in the war against NK and annex them as this might be preferable for them than a re-united democratic (ie SK) Korea with strong ties to the West - possible? Despite China's rapid militarisation the US nuclear armed submarine fleet remains a strong deterrent for war - that and war is bad for business for aspiring superpowers.
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China is well and truly already a superpower, to think otherwise is blatant ignorance. #giveleadmaxtonnesofrepday
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Stop my bar is over stuffed :(
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China - Yes and No - they definitely are a massive force with a lot of political influence, maybe they are a superpower right now but China may have to overcome a large number of internal issues (rampant corruptions, dodgy loans and a potential significant slowdown in the economy) these all have a much greater chance of destabilising the status quo than that of Western Democracy (not that politicians are any less corrupt) and potentially a revolution as their people become more educated and get a taste of the good life, a well educated youth with access to western thinking are less likely to tolerate an autocratic regime and if China can't keep their foot on the gas, improving standards of living for its people and keeping them happy (or distracted) - things could get ugly. I mean no one knows for sure, but derailing is definitely a possibility, I imagine it would also be pretty bad for Australia if this happens.
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I know it's wikipedia but I have also read from a number of other sources that the US currently is the only real superpower (the validity of this opinion I do not know) however lots of countries aren't too far off.
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South Korea doesn't have the money to support sudden unification, whether that be from diplomatic ways or war, they cannot afford to suddenly support 25 million North Koreans.
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You are probably right, but that didn't stop the reunification of East and West Germany - populations are probably hugely different. However a lot of East Germany was in ruin when the Berlin Wall fell and the unified German Government spent heaps of money that was made/taxed from West Germany to rebuild, update the infrastructure and reconnect East Germany. I mean I was just talking hypothetical scenarios, but I would think it would be quite likely that in the event that the NK regime fell the UN & possible the US would get involved and potentially large amounts of foreign aid would pour in if only to ensure another similar or worse regime doesn't form back in its place - Any re-unification would take a long time, and would probably involved staged development in the former NK.
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@blaknite have you tried petitioning the UN to give the Lanbox a spot in the General Assembly? We could probably fix this whole mess for em.
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Lanboxia - I would think it would be on the UN security council not just in the UN... wholy shit NZ is going to be the president of the UN security council in September 2016 - how do you feel about this @crazymuffins ?
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Why am i here? What's going on? I see a wall of text. TL;DR.

Summarize in 5 words or less.
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You are from New Zealand.
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^ Explained in 5 words exactly.
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We are solving world conflict.
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North Korea is fucking crazy.
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Japanese people cannot say "R"
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TASMANIA IS AN INDEPENDENT LAND THAT DON'T NEED YOUR SASS!
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Filthy went on a rant.
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So many 5 word explanations.
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TL;RD
North Korea strip teased. Someone wanted to describe it.
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Come on - it wasn't that ranty. And I wasn't arguing with you on the whole language thing - I just made a point about how lots of things like sounds can be interpreted subjectively by the brain.
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Do you really want me to do a word count on here? :P
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@R0ninX3ph Your next post is only allowed to be a word count. Nothing more. no words. Retorts. Anything. Just numbers.
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You can, but want I mean it wasn't and angry/argumentative rant it was more of a I have too much time to type rant
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1298.
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I had less words in my year 12 physics data analysis...
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did you pass Physics?
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I working on being succint
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M8 I was in the top 10 for my school, although that report was mostly charts.
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See a five word comment
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Good on you, I wasn't actually suggesting you were bad at physics, just a rebuttal to your joke about my word count. Thats very good - what are you studying at uni?
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@R0ninX3ph you probably spent more time copy/pasting/doing a word count than I did typing - solving the words problems isn't easily done in 5 word comments :P
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Doubtful. I did it in about a minute.
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I have never been good at saying less, working on story telling/getting to the point. I used to hate wordcount limits at uni...
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Word counts are better than page counts that they use in other countries. Page counts inherently promote waffling on and rambling. Word counts are designed to teach you to be concise.
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Some things and certain arguments cant be explain in say 1000-2000 words, especially when like over 10% of the words are taken up by accurate use of referencing. This was an issue when studying commerce, but in Engineering they normally didn't give a crap as long as you solved the problem, provided a suitable design, etc, but engineering stuff always included heaps of data, tables, figures, etc. I final year design project (group) was like 3 books, one being over 400 pages.
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Any lecturer who counts citations and then gives negatives for being over a word count, is a bad lecturer.
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When studying Commerce you often weren't allowed to have an original thought and had to use x references, I found I often wrote the assignment, then found reference to back up my opinions, as opposed to the other way around - was easier that way, worked pretty well for me - but seemed a stupid way to do things. You would have to submit electronic versions - which they did word count on and ran through the plagiarism detector. So all quotations counted as well as the actual reference to them counted. Lectures just lazy, probably never really read the stuff.
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But the point of the word count is to guide you on how elaborate you need to be in your argument. If you are given something with a limit of 750 words, it is quite clear it will be a simpler piece than being given a word limit of say 5000.

And yes, the quotes themselves count in a word count, I mean, a lecturer counting the actual in-line reference using whatever reference system you were told in the word count, is a bad lecturer.
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In Commerce students were assumed too dumb to have an original thought, were as in Engineering we could have all the original thoughts we wanted, some people got away with blatant plagiarism. I know the lecturers were often too lazy to read all our stuff, we had this theory about one lecturer, that he read the first exam, then just gave you a mark based on that for the rest of the course. Another lecturer gave me and my friend different marks, even thought we both had exactly the same answers, and all where correct (calculations including working), my friend got 95% I got 90%. We worked together on it - well, just happened to be sitting next to each other in the lab while doing it. Her handwriting was a bit neater than mine...
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Commerce degrees are the new arts degrees after all.
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And to think this started out as a comic about North Korea.
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I nearly failed english competency due to handwriting, it definitely impacts marks.
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The magic of the internet @Prophecy
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Yeh, they are just lazy - since I found references to suit my opinions, most where paraphrased. Thing is, some of the stuff we were asked to write about weren't simply topics "macroeconomics of markets" or "Employee/Employer rights and responsibilities", but had word limits, because lecturers and aids didn't wan't to read long essays from huge numbers of students (Commerce - University Cash Cow - Huge Enrolments, lots of foreign full fee paying students - some who weren't allowed to fail - like it was almost university policy).
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Word limits are not about lecturers not wanting to read long essays... I literally just told you word limits are there to show you how intricate or elaborate your writing/analysis of the topic had to be....
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I had horrible hand writing, but could write extremely fast, and typically formed pretty good arguments - I managed to dux English in first semester Year 12, NFI how... I was the only student that got an A, and it was my worst subject - mind you Rossmoyne SHS was very hard on the marking - Especially English, so that they would never get scaled down when normalising in the TEE results.
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I know what they are meant to be for - but I don't think a lot of lecturers used them that way, not when they had a class with 300-500 students
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I have friend who is an now an English teacher, she can't believe I did that - because my "proper English" is pretty bad.
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I only ever had large classes with my education subjects, but even then, it was the tutors who handled the actual marking of assignments and not the lecturer who taught the once a week 400 student class.
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All my other linguistics and language classes were small.
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It was like that a lot for engineering, some Commerce units it was like that, but often the same 1 or 2 tutors did the whole unit, and then there where workshops - a cross between lecture and tutorial, middle size, again, 1 or 2 people did the whole unit, classes might have been smaller, but same people doing the marking - unless they fobbed it off to some underling or post grad.
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You would hope the school of teaching, would do a better job of teaching...
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But yeah, being succint is not one of my strengths
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tru dat
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